Tuesday 18 February 2014

Did they didlum?

When my grandfather Bill was alive, I remember he collected cash from his 3 daughters every week, and gave it back to them before each Christmas. This informal savings club was called a Didlum, as was the money itself, i.e Aunt Mary would ask my mother if she had paid her didlum this week.

I have always been intrigued by this word, and wondered if other families used it. My mother says it goes back a long way: she remembers it from her Luton childhood in the 1940s when it was collected by a neighbour - Mrs Chamberlain. I decided to research the origin and usage of Didlum as part of my List.

I looked in many dictionaries, including the big ones in the library, but it was not there.
I tried emailing a variety of language professors at local universities - not one reply (perhaps if I had enclosed a cheque...)
I asked several family members for information, since I did not know if it was a family word or a local word, or more widely used.

I googled Didlum and found a few references - one was on a discussion board from Nottingham, another was in Cork, and the third was in Birmingham.
The first was a dictionary of Cork Slang by Sean Beecher, and defines didlum as DIDLUM
Construct: Noun
Definition: A savings scheme. A group of people contribute an agreed amount over a fixed period of time. The money was not distributed until all of it was collected a the end of the period. Contrast with Manage.
Use:
Derivation: Unknown

In Nottingham it was used in the same sense, with evidence given of it being used in clothing factories amongst the women.

The Birmingham History Forum has details of a didlum  club, so again, the same meaning.
I struck gold when I found a reference in a history book: They Worked All Their Lives, Women of the urban poor, 1880-1939 by Carl Chinn
 I borrowed the book from Bedford Central Library
On page 71 is this passage:

They Worked All Their Lives: Women of the Urban Poor in England, 1880-1939

 By Carl Chinn


When discussing means of credit, it is important to be aware
that, in spite of their impoverishment, wives of the urban poor
could and did attempt to insure themselves against hard times
through saving. This form of protection was not with a friendly
society or an insurance company; rather it was achieved
through small, highly localised groups of lower-working-class
women. A group of wives would bond together and form a club,
known as a ‘didly club’ in Lambeth and a ‘didlum’ club in
Birmingham. Out of their number, one who was trusted by all
would be chosen to hold the cash and to distribute it at the
appointed time, uually Christmas. Properly known as ‘rotating
credit associations’, the payments increased by the sum paid
in the first week. Thus if a figure of a halfpenny was decided
on - usually the case by the 1920s - then in the first week a
halfpenny was saved, in the next a penny, and so on. If a member
paid up for the full fifty weeks in which the club ran, then a um
of £2 13s lid was saved. For most women it was a struggle to
keep up these payments throughout the full term, but even those
who dropped out before the allotted term still received a not
insignificant sum to help them out.
The colloquial names of these clubs are probably derived from
the belief that those entrusted with clubs’ funds ‘diddled’ or
cheated their members out of their money. This belief arose
because of the disappearance of some trustees with the col-
lection and also because some clubs were in the habit of paying
the collectors with the final week's fee. Yet such clubs were -
and still are - very popular and if swindles had been common
place then they would soon have ceased to exist.




In The Ragged Trousered Philanthropists by Robert Tressell, one of the villains is called Mr Diddlum, as I found out when we read it recently for my Book Club.

So a great success! I found out that it is not just a family name, but used more widely, and it can be spelled with a single or double D.




8 comments:

  1. Hi, I too started looking into the meaning and origin of this name for a saving club, as my wife saves in a diddleum club with a neighbour and friends still today.
    Yours is the only true reference find on the internet, well done you saved me lots of time.

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    1. Thank you for your comment, I am really pleased to have been of help. I enjoyed working on this research.

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    2. Terry Southall2 July 2016 at 04:35

      Thank you for explaining this. As a young boy an old lady told me she saved in a 'Didlum'. I have asked lot's of people if they had heard of the expression only to be told No. I havn't imagined it after all.

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  2. Dad was talking about the diddleum club last night. Around 1935 he was living in Peckham in London aged 8. His mum who was very well respected in the neighbourhood for giving advice on all things including children’s ailments and writing letters for neighbours used to be a volunteer for the diddleum club which was located in the glass frontage of the local co op store. Although she was poor she was known for being honest. On a Saturday morning she would sometimes be one of three persons sitting at a baise covered table by the door collecting savings money from the regulars. Dad presumes that the co op must have invested the money for them. At Christmas if it had been a good year the regulars would receive an additional sum to the amount they had saved but if it had been a bad year due to a lot of deaths they would have less than they saved. This was because if someone had died in one of the savers families they would be given some money towards funeral costs which was something that was greatly needed in those times and if there were numerous deaths then the pot of money would go down.
    Because they were a community they all understood about getting more or less and it was all above board but in some of these clubs money went missing hence “diddling them” of their savings

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  3. I understood its name came from the fact that the treasurer did not pay them the interest accrued,just the amount saved,thereby diddling them out of that amount which was accepted as payment for the task.

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  4. When I first started work as a young lad in the Mod(n)Plymouth,there were a number of Didlum clubs in the different departments.The men who ran them were just ordinary working class folk, but they were honest.

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  5. Thanks for this info, I also run a didlum. I took over from my mum 35 years ago, she also took over from her mum over 55 years ago. We live in Nottingham and I always wondered where the name came from. Very interesting !!

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  6. My mother ran a diddlum club for her family in Nottinghamshire in the 1950s. She explained to me about the amount varying each week. They agreed to pay double weekly till a set point and decrease the weekly amount in the same way, then increase and decrease and so on. Presumably to keep the weekly amount manageable. This is all very interesting.

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